Friday, May 23, 2008

Reflections: A Gaff Too Far

HILLARY OSWALD CLINTON?

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Rodak, you're familiar with rhetoric as I. I hardly get the impression from what she said that she meant to harm. Yeah, the Clintons are calculating, but they are NOT THAT stupid! Of course, this campaign being what it is, all the remarks of Republicans will be glossed over, and the soundbite run endlessy until after the holiday.

Guess I'll only be posting the above thoughts here, as it looks like a certain Post writer has banned me from his blog and erased my comment calling bullshit on the Post, News Corps, and other right-wing outlets. Guess I got too close to someone's payroll (LOL).

--MS

Rodak said...

MS--
I am up to here with politics. You may have noticed that I haven't commented on RT for awhile, nor have I been reading it.
I couldn't let the utterly stupid, if not pernicious verbiage of HRC pass without comment, however.

Anonymous said...

Well, I agree about politics. I've been posting crazy crap over there for over a year to just to overturn the usual puerile "Crossfire" smugness among journalist types (O Jon Stewart, where is thy sting?).

I don't intend to give Hillary a pass, it's just that you have to listen to things in context. If anything she tends to be blunt and upfront about her comments since the end of the multi-person debates.

I still believe she is being taken out of context. It's sort of like someone recording you talking to me about religion for a half hour, and you say in the middle of the discussion, "There is no God, but the God of Jesus and Moses."

Then somebody chops your words into a soundbite and sticks it on YouTube so it comes out "There is no God ..."

It's clear to me that Hillary was awkward, but not intentional, and that the Post and other stench-ridden rightist publications were just waiting and hoping for some inane "gotcha" moment. But then again, when you put Photoshop-ed monkeys on the cover of a tabloid that is visually more unappealing than the National Enquirer, what do you expect?

However, keep up the good NON-POLITICAL work on your blog. All trajectio ad absurdum aside from the usual crap I used to post on that other blog, I enjoy that there is someone who brings the literary and literate into the blogosphere. You even got me to start reading a little fiction and essays again, something I haven't done in over twenty years. Believe me, for someone as linear-minded as me, that's no mean feat! (LOL)

Now maybe we could have another discussion on Dylan, if I could just find the energy to listen to anything he recorded after Infidels. Hell, I just got around to Nashville Skyline last year!

--MS

Rodak said...

MS--
I just watched a movie, man. That's something I don't do. I watched "Sideways." Not as good as people led me to believe.

As for Hillary, I hear you. But still, she said what she said. And she's said it before. And I really believe that deep down inside, she's wishing it would happen.

Did you, btw, read the jazz article from The New Yorker that I linked to? If not, check it out.

Anonymous said...

I hadn't heard of "Sideways." As you know, my taste in cinema is positively arugula, i.e. usual foreign, B&W, and made pre-Korean War. Right now, I'm on a "Lesser Works of Great Directors" mission. Just did Chaplin, now headed for Godard, then Fassbinder, Welles, and onward.

The jazz article seems pretty rich, so instead of a quick comment, I'll digest it over the weekend and get back with you on it. I'm just glad the author's and the subject's concept of jazz is not Kenny G, Najee, or Sade!

---MS

Rodak said...

MS--
I got up this morning and watched "Diner"--a much better movie than "Sideways." I'm a Mickey Rourke fan, for one thing.
To me, "Sideways" is TV acting, at best. The two actors mug their way through a formulaic plot. "Diner" is degrees of magnitude more real. Kevin Bacon is particularly good. The dialogue is convincing, and funny.
I have four more to go for this long weekend: "Last Year at Marienbad"; Barton Fink; Blue Velvet; and the original "The Producers" with Zero Mostel, et al. I've seen them all before, with the exception of "Marienbad."
The jazz article is long, but it's worth the read, if only for the great references. It's got me listening to all my Charlie Parker vinyl.

William R. Barker said...

Mad,

You're banned over at RT...?!?! For what...??? What exactly did you write that got you banned?

(If you want to pass it on to me directly Rob has my email and my permission to give it out to you.)

As to Clinton's "gaffe," I'm with Rob in the sense that I truly believe if HRC could make a deal with the devil that would see Obama "out of the way" - by any means necessary - she would. (*SHRUG*)

On the other hand, I agree with something posted by Ed (of all people) over at RT where his opinion is that this ain't really earthshaking or all that important.

Beyond the HRC remark, what's absolutely terrifying is the concept of the deed. I pray for Obama's safety daily. My God... could you guys IMAGINE if... (*SHUDDER*)

BILL

William R. Barker said...

BTW... speaking of reading...

I'm presently reading Christopher Buckley's "Boomsday: A Novel." Very funny stuff - as usual. Thought-provoking funny. (*NOD*) (*WINK*)

As to movies...

Saw Indiana Jones yesterday. So-so. Overboard on the special effects. The plot was a bit of any afterthought. (*SMILE*) Still... a "feel good" film for those of us who grew up on Indie. Certainly a HUGE improvement over the Star Wars "prequels." (*EECK*)

BILL

Rodak said...

I watched "Barton Fink" when I got up this morning. I love the Coen brothers.

William R. Barker said...

BTW...

Mad. Just received an email from RAG. You're not banned. Never were. (*SHRUG*)

BILL

Robert A. George said...

MS: There was a problem with Haloscan last week where comments disappeared and reappeared. It was most obvious in the Open Thread that hit 200 comments. In the three years, I've been running RT, I've only removed a comment three times (not counting obvious spam comments). Only one person has ever been banned (temporarily, as it turned out) -- and the reasons for that were known to all. If you said something that ticked me off, I would have said it both in the comment thread and via e-mail. I certainly would never ban you without warning.

I didn't even realize there was a problem until Bill e-mailed to get me to "reinstate" you (honorably returning the favor you extended to him some months back).

You know, for all the accusations that I'm thin-skinned, I hardly "suffer in silence" when I'm upset over something. I usually let people know directly instead of exerting some power anonymously from on high.

Rodak said...

I dunno... I just feel so...used!